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Robert November 28th 05 03:19 AM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
On numerous attempts, I've been unable to complete a clean installation of
Windows Me. I'm using Partition Magic by PowerQuest, and DOS is installed on
the first 2Gb primary partition (currently hidden by Partition Magic). I'm
trying to install Windows Me on the second 2Gb partition, which Partition
Magic has set as Active.

For some reason, I keep getting a "Generic Installer Error". An error screen
pops up that reads "Message SU99402" and "Invalid GenInstall INF File
(0x192)". This error occurs at different times during the installation when
program files are being copied to the hard disk.

I've been unable to find any mention of this error in the Knowledge Base.
What is the problem? Any ideas as to how I might resolve this problem would
be greatly appreciated!

Frustrated,
-Robert

Mike M November 28th 05 09:14 AM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
Robert,

It appears from the SU error message that the INF file is "bad" and the
most usual reason for seeing this, assuming that the CD you are using is
undamaged, is that the hard disk is damaged in some way and that the file
required is located on a "bad spot" on the disk or perhaps corrupted in
memory. If you can access the file setuplog..txt on your failed install
(do this by booting to DOS using a floppy) have a look at the end of the
file and see if it gives more of a clue as to the reason for this error,

I would strongly recommend that you thoroughly check both your hard disk
and RAM for errors. You can do this either by booting from a floppy and
running scandisk or perhaps better by downloading and running a testing
utility from the disk manufacturer's web site, for example if your disk is
a Maxtor use Maxtor's PowerMax testing utility. You can check your RAM by
using a product such as Simmtester's free DocMem
(http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp)
--
Mike Maltby



Robert wrote:

On numerous attempts, I've been unable to complete a clean
installation of Windows Me. I'm using Partition Magic by PowerQuest,
and DOS is installed on the first 2Gb primary partition (currently
hidden by Partition Magic). I'm trying to install Windows Me on the
second 2Gb partition, which Partition Magic has set as Active.

For some reason, I keep getting a "Generic Installer Error". An error
screen pops up that reads "Message SU99402" and "Invalid GenInstall
INF File (0x192)". This error occurs at different times during the
installation when program files are being copied to the hard disk.

I've been unable to find any mention of this error in the Knowledge
Base. What is the problem? Any ideas as to how I might resolve this
problem would be greatly appreciated!



Noel Paton November 28th 05 10:21 AM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
FWIW, I had similar problems after using Partition Magic - it turned out
that PM had actually screwed up, and there was nothing wrong with the
hardware.
I don't remember whether the SU number was the same - but it sounds
familiar.
Which version of PM are we talking about here?? - versions before 5 are not
compatible with ME, IIRC.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Robert,

It appears from the SU error message that the INF file is "bad" and the
most usual reason for seeing this, assuming that the CD you are using is
undamaged, is that the hard disk is damaged in some way and that the file
required is located on a "bad spot" on the disk or perhaps corrupted in
memory. If you can access the file setuplog..txt on your failed install
(do this by booting to DOS using a floppy) have a look at the end of the
file and see if it gives more of a clue as to the reason for this error,

I would strongly recommend that you thoroughly check both your hard disk
and RAM for errors. You can do this either by booting from a floppy and
running scandisk or perhaps better by downloading and running a testing
utility from the disk manufacturer's web site, for example if your disk is
a Maxtor use Maxtor's PowerMax testing utility. You can check your RAM by
using a product such as Simmtester's free DocMem
(http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp)
--
Mike Maltby



Robert wrote:

On numerous attempts, I've been unable to complete a clean
installation of Windows Me. I'm using Partition Magic by PowerQuest,
and DOS is installed on the first 2Gb primary partition (currently
hidden by Partition Magic). I'm trying to install Windows Me on the
second 2Gb partition, which Partition Magic has set as Active.

For some reason, I keep getting a "Generic Installer Error". An error
screen pops up that reads "Message SU99402" and "Invalid GenInstall
INF File (0x192)". This error occurs at different times during the
installation when program files are being copied to the hard disk.

I've been unable to find any mention of this error in the Knowledge
Base. What is the problem? Any ideas as to how I might resolve this
problem would be greatly appreciated!





Mike M November 28th 05 02:00 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
Thanks Noel,

Not having used PM since the late 90s I can't really comment other than of
course that the product has in most likelihood been totally trashed since
PowerQuest fell victim to the Symantec dollar. It might be worth the OP
booting to DOS using a Win Me boot floppy and checking their hard disk
using fdisk and then formatting the target partition.
--
Mike Maltby



Noel Paton wrote:

FWIW, I had similar problems after using Partition Magic - it turned
out that PM had actually screwed up, and there was nothing wrong with
the hardware.
I don't remember whether the SU number was the same - but it sounds
familiar.
Which version of PM are we talking about here?? - versions before 5
are not compatible with ME, IIRC.



Robert November 28th 05 08:45 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
I'm using Partition Magic, v.7. And, I've checked the hard disk, without
errors. I'll try one of the RAM test programs. Other than that, I'm at a
loss. I'll also try using an Me boot disk, and reformatting the select
partitions. Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
-Robert




"Mike M" wrote:

Thanks Noel,

Not having used PM since the late 90s I can't really comment other than of
course that the product has in most likelihood been totally trashed since
PowerQuest fell victim to the Symantec dollar. It might be worth the OP
booting to DOS using a Win Me boot floppy and checking their hard disk
using fdisk and then formatting the target partition.
--
Mike Maltby



Noel Paton wrote:

FWIW, I had similar problems after using Partition Magic - it turned
out that PM had actually screwed up, and there was nothing wrong with
the hardware.
I don't remember whether the SU number was the same - but it sounds
familiar.
Which version of PM are we talking about here?? - versions before 5
are not compatible with ME, IIRC.




Noel Paton November 28th 05 09:22 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
PM 7? - is that one signed Symantec, or PowerQuest?? If the former then
you're SOL, 'cos Symantec screwed it - if the latter, you're still SOL, 'cos
Symantec don't have a clue (and neither do I)
The last version I owned was PM6, IIRC - and that was bad enough (bloating
was getting beyond a joke, and it claimed things that I could never get it
to do - at least on the system I was working on at the time)
PM2 was a wonderful program - but........

I'd see if BING can rescue you out of the cr&pper - www.bootitng.com...
30-day free trial - and then post back.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert" wrote in message
...
I'm using Partition Magic, v.7. And, I've checked the hard disk, without
errors. I'll try one of the RAM test programs. Other than that, I'm at a
loss. I'll also try using an Me boot disk, and reformatting the select
partitions. Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
-Robert




"Mike M" wrote:

Thanks Noel,

Not having used PM since the late 90s I can't really comment other than
of
course that the product has in most likelihood been totally trashed since
PowerQuest fell victim to the Symantec dollar. It might be worth the OP
booting to DOS using a Win Me boot floppy and checking their hard disk
using fdisk and then formatting the target partition.
--
Mike Maltby



Noel Paton wrote:

FWIW, I had similar problems after using Partition Magic - it turned
out that PM had actually screwed up, and there was nothing wrong with
the hardware.
I don't remember whether the SU number was the same - but it sounds
familiar.
Which version of PM are we talking about here?? - versions before 5
are not compatible with ME, IIRC.






BJ Honeycut November 28th 05 10:48 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

PM 7? - is that one signed Symantec, or PowerQuest?? If the former
then you're SOL, 'cos Symantec screwed it - if the latter, you're
still SOL, 'cos Symantec don't have a clue (and neither do I)
The last version I owned was PM6, IIRC - and that was bad enough
(bloating was getting beyond a joke, and it claimed things that I
could never get it to do - at least on the system I was working on at
the time) PM2 was a wonderful program - but........

I'd see if BING can rescue you out of the cr&pper -
www.bootitng.com... 30-day free trial - and then post back.


Quite certain PQ waxn't bought until version 8 or later.

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

Robert December 2nd 05 03:09 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
Yes, it definitely has the PQ splash screen when it loads. However, whenever
I try to access Technical Support, it goes to Symantec and there is nothing
there; it says the product is discontinued/no longer supported.

I've since discovered a more serious problem. I was trying to test my RAM
using DocMemory (by SimmTester) as was suggested. It kept dumping to DOS
after 8-10 tests were run, before a complete cycle had completed. I installed
different RAM and had the same problem. I figured it's unlikely ALL my RAM is
bad. So, I looked at the BIOS, as has also been suggested.

I disabled Video Shadowing, System BIOS Caching, Video BIOS Caching,
Internal Caching and External Caching. I left the Memory Hole at 15M-16M
Enabled. With this configuration, I was able to get software to run, but
EXTREMELY slowly, and not very effectively. For instance, I was finally able
to get an OS to install, in this case Me. But now I have XMS Cache errors
(Registry services inoperative), and IFSMGR problems (can't find the helper
driver IFSHLP.SYS). In selectively turning off and on each of these BIOS
options, it seems that the predominant offending culprit is the Internal
Cache.

Is this related to my other problems? Do I need to replace my
CPU/systemboard? Is there a workaround, or am I totally screwed?

-Robert




"BJ Honeycut" wrote:

"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

PM 7? - is that one signed Symantec, or PowerQuest?? If the former
then you're SOL, 'cos Symantec screwed it - if the latter, you're
still SOL, 'cos Symantec don't have a clue (and neither do I)
The last version I owned was PM6, IIRC - and that was bad enough
(bloating was getting beyond a joke, and it claimed things that I
could never get it to do - at least on the system I was working on at
the time) PM2 was a wonderful program - but........

I'd see if BING can rescue you out of the cr&pper -
www.bootitng.com... 30-day free trial - and then post back.


Quite certain PQ waxn't bought until version 8 or later.

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike


Noel Paton December 2nd 05 10:39 PM

Setup hangs while copying files
 
It does look rather as if either your Motherboard or CPU are busted - which
one, is a matter of luck, and difficult to diagnose conclusively :(

My best offer is to see if you can recover/back up your data by attaching
the HD to another MB, and then replacing one or other of MB and CPU (but
best solution is to replace both! - and the RAM too!) and consider upgrading
the OS.
Note that a lot of modern motherboards still support Win9x OS's -even some
of the 64-bit motherboards - so you could be in a 'good' position to upgrade
when funds are available.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert" wrote in message
...
Yes, it definitely has the PQ splash screen when it loads. However,
whenever
I try to access Technical Support, it goes to Symantec and there is
nothing
there; it says the product is discontinued/no longer supported.

I've since discovered a more serious problem. I was trying to test my RAM
using DocMemory (by SimmTester) as was suggested. It kept dumping to DOS
after 8-10 tests were run, before a complete cycle had completed. I
installed
different RAM and had the same problem. I figured it's unlikely ALL my RAM
is
bad. So, I looked at the BIOS, as has also been suggested.

I disabled Video Shadowing, System BIOS Caching, Video BIOS Caching,
Internal Caching and External Caching. I left the Memory Hole at 15M-16M
Enabled. With this configuration, I was able to get software to run, but
EXTREMELY slowly, and not very effectively. For instance, I was finally
able
to get an OS to install, in this case Me. But now I have XMS Cache errors
(Registry services inoperative), and IFSMGR problems (can't find the
helper
driver IFSHLP.SYS). In selectively turning off and on each of these BIOS
options, it seems that the predominant offending culprit is the Internal
Cache.

Is this related to my other problems? Do I need to replace my
CPU/systemboard? Is there a workaround, or am I totally screwed?

-Robert




"BJ Honeycut" wrote:

"Noel Paton" wrote in
:

PM 7? - is that one signed Symantec, or PowerQuest?? If the former
then you're SOL, 'cos Symantec screwed it - if the latter, you're
still SOL, 'cos Symantec don't have a clue (and neither do I)
The last version I owned was PM6, IIRC - and that was bad enough
(bloating was getting beyond a joke, and it claimed things that I
could never get it to do - at least on the system I was working on at
the time) PM2 was a wonderful program - but........

I'd see if BING can rescue you out of the cr&pper -
www.bootitng.com... 30-day free trial - and then post back.


Quite certain PQ waxn't bought until version 8 or later.

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike





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