problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
'95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option.
I recently had a play with soporific's UBCD, a. k. a. "Windows 98, 10th anniversary edition". I think a vast amount of work has gone into it, and when installed from scratch as I did on a laptop for a friend, it worked well (including the universal USB driver). However, as with many such things, trying to install over an existing system (even though it does include an option to do so) is more problematical. Anyway: I've finally got my original system back, due to use of some ERDs from before I tried it, with one exception (that I know so far, anyway): it initially manifested as the sound, but I think is more fundamental. My sound isn't working. I've obtained the drivers from the manufacturer (A??? motherboard; "Realtek AC'97 Audio"), since I couldn't find the mobo CD. Device Manager shows it, with a black-on-yellow "!". Properties shows under Device status "The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for this device could not load the device driver. (Code 2.)\\To Fix this, click Update Driver to update the device driver." When I do, I get the usual wizard. Whether I let this look for the right driver (they're sort of in place, the install software having done its stuff to that extent, or I unzipped something, I can't remember) or I tell it where to look, I get to the "Please wait while Windows searches ...", then I get a - old-fashioned style, no close button - window in screen middle that says "Rundll32\\An error has occurred in your program. To keep working anyway..." and Close and Ignore buttons. If I click Ignore, nothing happens; Close brings up a (Windows style this time) "This program has performed an illegal ..." with Close and Details buttons. If I close this, all windows (back to and including Device Manger) disappear. If I remove the Realtek from Device Manager and restart, I get found new hardware, with various windows appearing as normal, then it locks up (I can't remember with what error message): if I Ctrl-alt-Del at that point, I can get back to a blank desktop (no icons or taskbar, just a mouse pointer). The only way out of that (it happens again if I restart) is to use the old ERD again. My Rundll32 file is fine (I never suspected it anyway, as it usually gets "blamed" when something else goes wrong, but I have checked it). I get something similar when trying to install another piece of hardware (a microscope - i. e. basically a camera - and I am doing it according to the instructions, i. e. drivers before connecting): _something_ crashes, at the point after it's "found" the new hardware and is doing whatever it does next at that point. Any suggestions what is wrong and how to fix it? (Getting sound back would be a start, but I suspect that needs the problem solving anyway.) [It may not be UBCD that screwed things up, but I know at least one poster who will think it did ... (-:] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** .... on Thursdays on BBC Two, the former BBC2. (John Peel in "Radio Times", 1-7 May 1999.) |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery,
you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite. Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Gary S. Terhune writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery,
you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite. Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Gary S. Terhune writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite. Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Gary S. Terhune writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
Wow! This Win95 room is downright drafty. When's the last time a maid was in
here to clear out the cobwebs? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite. Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Gary S. Terhune writes "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... '95 'group included as I use the '95 shell, via 98lite "Sleek" option. Then you're not running Windows 98. Please go find a more appropriate I have - the '95 one. They're friendly. newsgroup. I presume "98Lite" has it's own well-staffed and informative communinty forum or other support. Oh... It doesn't? In fact, unless you BUY the professional edition, there's no support at all? Guess you're SOL. I have found (especially on the '95 group) plenty of people to help me, and whom I can help, with various things. I've even helped people in the '98 one. I acknowledge your right to hold the views you do about 98lite (and soporific's work - I'm closer to you on that, though we don't actually converge). And please note that there is no such newsgroup as microsoft.public.win98.general.discussion I cut and pasted that from somewhere, rather than making it up. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
problems with 32.dll when loading drivers
In message , Gary S. Terhune
writes No, I meant a group who could truly understand the nuances of your butchery, you know, one that SPECIALIZES in 98Lite. Or aren't there enough of you to warrant that? I've been using 98lite for years, and in general have found little to denigrate it - and frequently felt that it has saved me from things that using the '98 shell would have subjected me to. No, I can't give any specific examples at this very moment. If you feel so strongly that it renders the priests of purity liable to be tainted, then please feel free to ignore any threads in which I ever mention it. Some of them might even dare to speak for themselves ... Leaving aside our own personal feud, does anyone else out there have any positive suggestions as to what might be the cure for my problem with loading drivers? (Incidentally, I have tried switching back to the "chubby" - I think it is - version, the one that uses the '98 shell, which didn't make the problem go away.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. ** "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." Newton [deliberately] misquoted by Hal Ableson, then quoted by chris harrison. |
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