Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question, but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the 98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

You didn't look close enough--ME is directly above W98 in the community
newsgroup list Here's general info.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgro...-us;newsgroups

ME cannot use NTFS partitions. When you are booting with ME as the active
drive, is the BIOS recognizing the second drive? How do you have the drives
connected: what devices are on what cables and how are the jumper pins set?

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

On my computer, when I go to the newsgroup link for Win9x Communities(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...pos/win9x.mspx), the Windows Millenium category is blank.

Yes, the second drive is recognized in POST. And as I said, I've tried connecting the drives in a variety of configurations, all with the same result. I tried putting them on the same cable, Win98se-primary master, WinME-primary slave (pins correct for each). I tried putting them on separate cables, Win98se-primary master, WinME-secondary master (and pins correct for each). The same result with each.

I'll try the links you mentioned. Thanks!

-Robert



"Ron Badour" wrote:

You didn't look close enough--ME is directly above W98 in the community
newsgroup list Here's general info.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgro...-us;newsgroups

ME cannot use NTFS partitions. When you are booting with ME as the active
drive, is the BIOS recognizing the second drive? How do you have the drives
connected: what devices are on what cables and how are the jumper pins set?

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

On my computer, when I go to the newsgroup link for Win9x Communities(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...pos/win9x.mspx), the Windows Millenium category is blank.

Yes, the second drive is recognized in POST. And as I said, I've tried connecting the drives in a variety of configurations, all with the same result. I tried putting them on the same cable, Win98se-primary master, WinME-primary slave (pins correct for each). I tried putting them on separate cables, Win98se-primary master, WinME-secondary master (and pins correct for each). The same result with each.

I'll try the links you mentioned. Thanks!

-Robert



"Ron Badour" wrote:

You didn't look close enough--ME is directly above W98 in the community
newsgroup list Here's general info.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgro...-us;newsgroups

ME cannot use NTFS partitions. When you are booting with ME as the active
drive, is the BIOS recognizing the second drive? How do you have the drives
connected: what devices are on what cables and how are the jumper pins set?

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

On my computer, when I go to the newsgroup link for Win9x Communities(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...pos/win9x.mspx), the Windows Millenium category is blank - no links.

Yes, the WinMe drive is recognized in POST. And as I said, I've tried connecting the drives in a variety of configurations, all with the same result. I tried putting them on the same cable, Win98se-primary master, WinME-primary slave (pins correct for each). I tried putting them on separate cables, Win98se-primary master, WinME-secondary master (and pins correct for each). The same result with each.
I'll try the links you mentioned. Thanks!
-Robert

"Ron Badour" wrote:



You didn't look close enough--ME is directly above W98 in the community
newsgroup list Here's general info.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgro...-us;newsgroups

ME cannot use NTFS partitions. When you are booting with ME as the active
drive, is the BIOS recognizing the second drive? How do you have the drives
connected: what devices are on what cables and how are the jumper pins set?

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

I have reported that blank spot to MS.

If you want to use the internet interface (UGH) to access newsgroups, then
go he http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx

Clicking on Windows will display WinME.

However, I would configure OE so you can use it to subscribe to newsgroups
you are interested in: tools, accounts, add news. You can use the MS
server: msnews.microsoft.com and do not list a valid email address or
you will get bombarded with spam/virus.
----------------------------

I know you have tried different configurations; however, it is easy to
forget steps when you are frustrated. I would do this. Put your ME drive
on the primary EIDE cable and the SE drive on the secondary EIDE cable.
Leave all other drives disconnected until the problems are worked out.

Check on the web site of the drives' makers for the correct jumper pin
settings (unless you have written documentation on it). I have seen jumper
pin settings that are different for a drive that is the sole device on a
cable versus being the master device of two drives. If your PC uses cable
select, make sure the drives are located properly (master is the end
position, slave is the center).

Make sure the drives are properly recognized in the BIOS.

Make sure the ME drive is set as active. Check with fdisk and make sure
both drives are recognized and that the partitions are correct.

Boot. If you still cannot see the second drive:

1. Do you have Tweak UI installed? If so, go to My Computer tab and put
marks in all drives.

2. Check for a lastdrive statement in the config.sys file and if it exists,
make sure it reads: lastdrive=z

3. Run regedit.exe and open it to this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup

In the right pane, look for a last drive statement and if it is present,
make sure it reads "Z"

4. Control panel, system, performance tab: is there any comment about
MSDos compatibility mode?

--
Regards

Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

"Robert" wrote in message
...
On my computer, when I go to the newsgroup link for Win9x
Communities(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...ups/desktopos/
win9x.mspx), the Windows Millenium category is blank.

Yes, the second drive is recognized in POST. And as I said, I've tried
connecting the drives in a variety of configurations, all with the same
result. I tried putting them on the same cable, Win98se-primary master,
WinME-primary slave (pins correct for each). I tried putting them on
separate cables, Win98se-primary master, WinME-secondary master (and pins
correct for each). The same result with each.

I'll try the links you mentioned. Thanks!

-Robert

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

Ugh, did you or someone else put a bios extender on the hard drive with
98SE?
"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

Can't read Windows 98se drive on Win Me system
 

Not familiar with the term "BIOS extender" Dave. Can you explain, and tell me how I can check to see if I (or someone else) may have done it inadvertantly?

-Thanks.




"Lil' Dave" wrote:

Ugh, did you or someone else put a bios extender on the hard drive with
98SE?
"Robert" wrote in message
...
Not sure if this is the correct discussion group or not for this question,
but I didn't see a Windows Me community. I hope someone can still help me.

I recently installed Windows Me on a new 80 Gb drive, and wanted my
original Win98se drive as a second drive on the system. I tried connecting
the 98 drive every way I can think of, and I still can't read a single file
or folder on it when I'm in WinMe.

Fdisk sees a primary DOS partition (about 1/2 used) on the Windows 98se
drive. And, the Win98se drive boots fine when it's the primary master. I've
checked the pin configurations on both drives, and experimented with
different combinations of drive connections to the MB. I also tried putting
the 98se drive in a different computer (also running WinMe), and still can't
read it.

I wonder, does WinMe use NTFS by default? As long as none of the drives on
the system are NTFS, I should be able to read them all. But, the 98se drive
is behaving like it's an NTFS drive on a non-NTFS system. I'd converted the
98se drive from Fat16 to Fat32 awhile ago. (However, the drive previously
had an NTFS Windows 2000 partition on it.) I should see NTFS listed beside
the 98se drive in Fdisk if it still has an NTFS partition, right? Is there
any chance (or any way to check to see if) there's some residual NTFS setup
in the boot sector of the 98se drive?

What's the problem? Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!