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Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
PCR wrote:
......Quote cquirke.............. In registry, look for NoDriveTypeAutoRun 95 is default value, but dangerous; this autoruns HD too! 9D is better value, allows CD autorun, suppresses HD autorun B5 disables CD autorun, enables HD autorun (bad) BD disables CD autorun, disables HD autorun (better) 00 allows all devices to autorun (supremo bad) FF allows no devices to autorun (supremo safe) TwaekUI's Paranoi tab works through this setting ......EOQ............................ Yours was BAD, 98 Guy! My current setting (9D) is a better value! What exactly does a hard drive with auto-run enabled look like? What does it do? | What is the "NoStartBanner" setting for? The pre-Internet Explorer 4 Windows 95 also shoots an animated arrow across the taskbar at bootup, pointing at the Start menu, and telling you to click here to begin. Meaning that because I have a "NoStartBanner", that my Win-98se system must have started life as Win-95? I had a look at a system that I know was installed as a Win-98SE system, and it has only these two reg entries: CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 My system has those two, plus these three: NoActiveDesktop NoSaveSettings NoStartBanner |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ... PCR wrote: ......Quote cquirke.............. In registry, look for NoDriveTypeAutoRun 95 is default value, but dangerous; this autoruns HD too! 9D is better value, allows CD autorun, suppresses HD autorun B5 disables CD autorun, enables HD autorun (bad) BD disables CD autorun, disables HD autorun (better) 00 allows all devices to autorun (supremo bad) FF allows no devices to autorun (supremo safe) TwaekUI's Paranoi tab works through this setting ......EOQ............................ Yours was BAD, 98 Guy! My current setting (9D) is a better value! What exactly does a hard drive with auto-run enabled look like? What does it do? It will autorun whatever is in an autorun.inf file placed in the root of the drive....very handy feature for malware droppers. ;-) | What is the "NoStartBanner" setting for? The pre-Internet Explorer 4 Windows 95 also shoots an animated arrow across the taskbar at bootup, pointing at the Start menu, and telling you to click here to begin. Meaning that because I have a "NoStartBanner", that my Win-98se system must have started life as Win-95? No, that info is not entirely accurate. The setting is also used in and can exist in Win98.....AFAIR the Click Here To Begin arrow can appear in Win98 also. Those settings are often added by tweaking utilities, even if you don't set them on or off.....TweakUI for example adds those entries. I had a look at a system that I know was installed as a Win-98SE system, and it has only these two reg entries: CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 My system has those two, plus these three: NoActiveDesktop NoSaveSettings NoStartBanner You have probably had TweakUI or other such utilities installed at some time, and they added those entries. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
98 Guy wrote:
| PCR wrote: | | ......Quote cquirke.............. | In registry, look for NoDriveTypeAutoRun | 95 is default value, but dangerous; this autoruns HD too! | 9D is better value, allows CD autorun, suppresses HD autorun | B5 disables CD autorun, enables HD autorun (bad) | BD disables CD autorun, disables HD autorun (better) | 00 allows all devices to autorun (supremo bad) | FF allows no devices to autorun (supremo safe) | TwaekUI's Paranoi tab works through this setting | ......EOQ............................ | | Yours was BAD, 98 Guy! My current setting (9D) is a better value! | | What exactly does a hard drive with auto-run enabled look like? What | does it do? As glee said & I've read here before, an Autorun.inf in the root directory (C:\) would run at boot. .Inf's are very powerful & can do just about anything. Usually, though, it's an innocent .inf copied from a CD that causes the following issue... http://support.microsoft.com/default...52&Product=w98 CD-ROM Drive Icon Appears for a Hard Disk | | What is the "NoStartBanner" setting for? | | The pre-Internet Explorer 4 Windows 95 also shoots an animated | arrow across the taskbar at bootup, pointing at the Start menu, | and telling you to click here to begin. | | Meaning that because I have a "NoStartBanner", that my Win-98se system | must have started life as Win-95? | | I had a look at a system that I know was installed as a Win-98SE | system, and it has only these two reg entries: | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 That is the supremo safe setting! | My system has those two, plus these three: | | NoActiveDesktop | NoSaveSettings | NoStartBanner I'll gleefully go with Glen on what he said. I have none of those. Probably the top one is very good, as Active Desktop is another mischeif maker cquirke has often warned against. I just never use it. Here is what NoSaveSettings does... http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q130234 Save Settings On Exit Option Enabled by Default ....Quote............. ....snip... Setting the NoSaveSettings field to 1 prevents your settings from being saved. When you set this value, the following items are not saved when you exit Windows: Changed icon positions on the desktop. Windows that are open when you exit. The size and position of the taskbar. ....End quote....... -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
PCR wrote:
| I had a look at a system that I know was installed as a Win-98SE | system, and it has only these two reg entries: | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 That is the supremo safe setting! | My system has those two, plus these three: | | NoActiveDesktop | NoSaveSettings | NoStartBanner Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but some other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system have tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came from. Specifically, the order of these entries on my system a CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 NoActiveDesktop 01 00 00 00 NoDriveTypeAutoRun 95 00 00 00 NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 Note that those keys are also found he HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Policies\Explorer |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
"PCR" wrote in message ...
98 Guy wrote: | PCR wrote: | | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 | | My system has those two, plus these three: | | | | NoActiveDesktop | | NoSaveSettings | | NoStartBanner | | Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but some | other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system have | tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came from. Could be a tweak tool. Have you ever run poledit ? | NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 | NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 These two have a value of zero; therefore, they are not in effect. Meaning 0=(Not)NoSaveSettings. (therefore, do save settings) 1=NoSaveSettings. |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
On Wed, 09 May 2007 22:28:18 -0400, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed: PCR wrote: | I had a look at a system that I know was installed as a Win-98SE | system, and it has only these two reg entries: | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 That is the supremo safe setting! | My system has those two, plus these three: | | NoActiveDesktop | NoSaveSettings | NoStartBanner Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but some other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system have tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came from. Specifically, the order of these entries on my system a That's the alphabetically sorted order, not necessarily the order in which the entries were created. Mine also displays them alphabetically, but exports them in chronological (?) order. CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 NoActiveDesktop 01 00 00 00 NoDriveTypeAutoRun 95 00 00 00 NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 Note that those keys are also found he HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cu rrentVersion\Policies\Explorer This is what I see when I export that particular key to a .reg file: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer "CDRAutoRun"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoFavoritesMenu"=hex:01,00,00,00 "ClassicShell"=hex:00,00,00,00 "NoDriveTypeAutoRun"=hex:ff,00,00,00 "NoDrives"=hex:00,00,00,00 @=hex:00,00,00,00 "EditLevel"=dword:00000000 "NoRun"=dword:00000000 "NoClose"=dword:00000000 "NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000 "NoFileMenu"=dword:00000000 - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
Bill Blanton wrote:
| "PCR" wrote in message | ... | 98 Guy wrote: | | PCR wrote: | | | | | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | | | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 | | | | My system has those two, plus these three: | | | | | | NoActiveDesktop | | | NoSaveSettings | | | NoStartBanner | | | | Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but some | | other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system have | | tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came from. | | Could be a tweak tool. Have you ever run poledit ? PolEdit could do it too, yea. But, just because all 5 computers have TweakUI or PolEdit, it doesn't mean all 5 users used it to create those values. | | NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 | | NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 | | These two have a value of zero; therefore, they are not in effect. | | Meaning | 0=(Not)NoSaveSettings. (therefore, do save settings) | 1=NoSaveSettings. That's right. MS created a double negative with those values. |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
Howdy Bill, and PCR,
It's been a while but as I recall, the NoSaveSettings entry will be binary (hex) when added by TweakUI, and will be DWORD when added by poledit. Also, as you know, other tweaking utilities (and there are/were a lot of them) will also add the entries, whether as hex or dword may vary. Additionally, I found the dword NoSaveSettings caused different behaviour than the hex NoSaveSettings, when enabled (set to 1). -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill Blanton" wrote in message ... "PCR" wrote in message ... 98 Guy wrote: | PCR wrote: | | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 | | My system has those two, plus these three: | | | | NoActiveDesktop | | NoSaveSettings | | NoStartBanner | | Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but some | other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system have | tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came from. Could be a tweak tool. Have you ever run poledit ? | NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 | NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 These two have a value of zero; therefore, they are not in effect. Meaning 0=(Not)NoSaveSettings. (therefore, do save settings) 1=NoSaveSettings. |
Empty floppy drive grinds away at startup
glee wrote:
| Howdy Bill, and PCR, | It's been a while but as I recall, the NoSaveSettings entry will be | binary (hex) when added by TweakUI, and will be DWORD when added by | poledit. | | Also, as you know, other tweaking utilities (and there are/were a lot | of them) will also add the entries, whether as hex or dword may vary. | Additionally, I found the dword NoSaveSettings caused different | behaviour than the hex NoSaveSettings, when enabled (set to 1). Hello, glee. It's a pity, in their own article... http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q130234 Save Settings On Exit Option Enabled by Default ...., MS doesn't say which format NoSaveSettings should take. Different formats likely means different bits are set, especially if the value is not zero & if it is signed. Ultimately, it depends upon the app reading the Registry to understand the value read. I hope those apps had another place to look besides that article to discover the format to expect. My guess is it should be binary, because the others in that key are binary. Also, it's really the first byte that is of importance... OFF: 00 00 00 00 ON: 01 00 00 00 But those are mostly double negatives, as Blanton iterated. This is pretty much how (Bicycle) Rob once put it... .........Quote........... Right-click the right pane and select New, Binary Value, & name it: NoChangeStartMenu To disable START button context menus NoClose To disable Shut Down. NoFavoritesMenu To remove Favorites. NoFileMenu To remove the File Menu in Explorer. NoFind To remove Find. NoLogOff To remove Log Off. NoRecentDocsHistory To disable the Documents compilation process. NoRecentDocsMenu To remove Documents. NoRun To remove Run. NoSaveSettings To prevent some few settings getting saved to the Registry. NoSetFolders To disable Control Panel and Printer folders. NoTrayContextMenu To disable Taskbar context menu. NoViewContextMenu To disable (all?) context menus. Double-click the new entry, select modify, and add this value... 01 00 00 00. To reverse the action, change the value to... 00 00 00 00 .......EOQ.................... | -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | http://dts-l.org/ | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | "Bill Blanton" wrote in message | ... | "PCR" wrote in message | ... | 98 Guy wrote: | | PCR wrote: | | | | | | CDRAutoRun 00 00 00 00 | | | NoDriveTypeAutoRun ff 00 00 00 | | | | My system has those two, plus these three: | | | | | | NoActiveDesktop | | | NoSaveSettings | | | NoStartBanner | | | | Like I said, my system has all 5 of the above reg entries, but | | some other win-98 systems only have the first 2. But all system | | have tweakui - so I'm not sure where the other 3 entries came | | from. | | Could be a tweak tool. Have you ever run poledit ? | | | | NoSaveSettings 00 00 00 00 | | NoStartBAnner 00 00 00 00 | | These two have a value of zero; therefore, they are not in effect. | | Meaning | 0=(Not)NoSaveSettings. (therefore, do save settings) | 1=NoSaveSettings. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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