Strange loss of system resources
 

Hi gang.

Something a little strange is happening.

I am running 98SELite on a 2GHz machine with 1GB of RAM. I have
the following lines in system.ini and everything runs fine
(but... see later):

[vcache]
MinFileCache=0
MaxFileCache=524288

(another section)
MinPagingFileSize=204800
MaxPagingFileSize=204800

(I haven't used ANY of the swap file since I put in the 1GB RAM
:-)

Here's the weirdness:

I seem to be running out of system resources all the time and
quite rapidly - much more so than when I still had just 256 MB
of RAM. After about ½ hr on the web, I get to about 20% on the
1st and 3rd resource and sometimes I have to reboot a few
minutes later.

I use Opera and I have started using FireFox 2.0.0.18 because
Opera crashes a lot with the stupid SWF plugin, although I still
prefer its features and I am very accustomed to it.

If I stay off the web, no problem with sys resources.

Does anyone have any idea WHY this has started happening and
what I can do to fix it?
Any help would be most appreciated, as usual.

t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

thanatoid wrote:
Hi gang.

Something a little strange is happening.

I am running 98SELite on a 2GHz machine with 1GB of RAM. I have
the following lines in system.ini and everything runs fine
(but... see later):

[vcache]
MinFileCache=0
MaxFileCache=524288

(another section)
MinPagingFileSize=204800
MaxPagingFileSize=204800

(I haven't used ANY of the swap file since I put in the 1GB RAM
:-)

Here's the weirdness:

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on the amount of
ram.
Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using up your System
Resources.
Even desktop icons use System Resources.

I seem to be running out of system resources all the time and
quite rapidly - much more so than when I still had just 256 MB
of RAM. After about ½ hr on the web, I get to about 20% on the
1st and 3rd resource and sometimes I have to reboot a few
minutes later.

I use Opera and I have started using FireFox 2.0.0.18 because
Opera crashes a lot with the stupid SWF plugin, although I still
prefer its features and I am very accustomed to it.

If I stay off the web, no problem with sys resources.

Does anyone have any idea WHY this has started happening and
what I can do to fix it?
Any help would be most appreciated, as usual.

t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

thanatoid wrote:
Hi gang.

Something a little strange is happening.

I am running 98SELite on a 2GHz machine with 1GB of RAM. I have
the following lines in system.ini and everything runs fine
(but... see later):

[vcache]
MinFileCache=0
MaxFileCache=524288

(another section)
MinPagingFileSize=204800
MaxPagingFileSize=204800

(I haven't used ANY of the swap file since I put in the 1GB RAM
:-)

Here's the weirdness:

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on the amount of
ram.
Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using up your System
Resources.
Even desktop icons use System Resources.

I seem to be running out of system resources all the time and
quite rapidly - much more so than when I still had just 256 MB
of RAM. After about ½ hr on the web, I get to about 20% on the
1st and 3rd resource and sometimes I have to reboot a few
minutes later.

I use Opera and I have started using FireFox 2.0.0.18 because
Opera crashes a lot with the stupid SWF plugin, although I still
prefer its features and I am very accustomed to it.

If I stay off the web, no problem with sys resources.

Does anyone have any idea WHY this has started happening and
what I can do to fix it?
Any help would be most appreciated, as usual.

t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

"Buffalo" wrote in
:

SNIP

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on
the amount of ram.

I am aware of that. I just gave what I thought was pertinent
info - it did NOT happen when I has 256 MB. You /never/ know.

Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using
up your System Resources.

I am not running ANYTHING while on the web that I am not running
while NOT on the web (ie I do not have a virus scanner
permanently on, etc. - and my firewall uses SO little resources
that it's always on even when NOT on the net.

Even desktop icons use System Resources.

Yes, I know that too, and yesterday I switched them all off
hoping it would help as I was just about to finsih a large DL.
It may or may not have helped but I managed to finish the DL,
albeit with 'system' fonts on the screen.

Anyway, I certainly appreciate you being the only person in the
group to address my question so far (instead of hijacking the
thread ;-[ )- even though it simply seems that for some stupid
reason browsers use a lot of system resources. WHY they use more
NOW than before I don't know.

I guess that is ONE advantage I will give XP - supposedly this
system resources thing was worked out in it. Supposedly.

Thanks,
t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

"Buffalo" wrote in
:

SNIP

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on
the amount of ram.

I am aware of that. I just gave what I thought was pertinent
info - it did NOT happen when I has 256 MB. You /never/ know.

Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using
up your System Resources.

I am not running ANYTHING while on the web that I am not running
while NOT on the web (ie I do not have a virus scanner
permanently on, etc. - and my firewall uses SO little resources
that it's always on even when NOT on the net.

Even desktop icons use System Resources.

Yes, I know that too, and yesterday I switched them all off
hoping it would help as I was just about to finsih a large DL.
It may or may not have helped but I managed to finish the DL,
albeit with 'system' fonts on the screen.

Anyway, I certainly appreciate you being the only person in the
group to address my question so far (instead of hijacking the
thread ;-[ )- even though it simply seems that for some stupid
reason browsers use a lot of system resources. WHY they use more
NOW than before I don't know.

I guess that is ONE advantage I will give XP - supposedly this
system resources thing was worked out in it. Supposedly.

Thanks,
t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

thanatoid wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

SNIP

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on
the amount of ram.

I am aware of that. I just gave what I thought was pertinent
info - it did NOT happen when I has 256 MB. You /never/ know.


I thought you probably knew that but I mentioned it anyways.
Interesting that it did not happen with 256MB. Perhaps one of the Win98
Gurus will have an explanation.
Did you have FireFox when you only had 256MB?


Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using
up your System Resources.

I am not running ANYTHING while on the web that I am not running
while NOT on the web (ie I do not have a virus scanner
permanently on, etc. - and my firewall uses SO little resources
that it's always on even when NOT on the net.


While working offline, turn your anti-virus off. (Process of elimination)
Does your anti-virus automatically check for updates? That could be using
system resources also??? Just guessing.


Even desktop icons use System Resources.

Yes, I know that too, and yesterday I switched them all off
hoping it would help as I was just about to finsih a large DL.
It may or may not have helped but I managed to finish the DL,
albeit with 'system' fonts on the screen.

Anyway, I certainly appreciate you being the only person in the
group to address my question so far (instead of hijacking the
thread ;-[ )- even though it simply seems that for some stupid
reason browsers use a lot of system resources. WHY they use more
NOW than before I don't know.

I guess that is ONE advantage I will give XP - supposedly this
system resources thing was worked out in it. Supposedly.

Thanks,
t.

If I hear of a program that tracks the use of system resources, I will post
back. (use and which program uses them)

Strange loss of system resources
 

thanatoid wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in
:

SNIP

Do some more Googling. System Resources is not dependent on
the amount of ram.

I am aware of that. I just gave what I thought was pertinent
info - it did NOT happen when I has 256 MB. You /never/ know.


I thought you probably knew that but I mentioned it anyways.
Interesting that it did not happen with 256MB. Perhaps one of the Win98
Gurus will have an explanation.
Did you have FireFox when you only had 256MB?


Hopefully you will find which system or progream is using
up your System Resources.

I am not running ANYTHING while on the web that I am not running
while NOT on the web (ie I do not have a virus scanner
permanently on, etc. - and my firewall uses SO little resources
that it's always on even when NOT on the net.


While working offline, turn your anti-virus off. (Process of elimination)
Does your anti-virus automatically check for updates? That could be using
system resources also??? Just guessing.


Even desktop icons use System Resources.

Yes, I know that too, and yesterday I switched them all off
hoping it would help as I was just about to finsih a large DL.
It may or may not have helped but I managed to finish the DL,
albeit with 'system' fonts on the screen.

Anyway, I certainly appreciate you being the only person in the
group to address my question so far (instead of hijacking the
thread ;-[ )- even though it simply seems that for some stupid
reason browsers use a lot of system resources. WHY they use more
NOW than before I don't know.

I guess that is ONE advantage I will give XP - supposedly this
system resources thing was worked out in it. Supposedly.

Thanks,
t.

If I hear of a program that tracks the use of system resources, I will post
back. (use and which program uses them)

Strange loss of system resources
 

"Buffalo" wrote in
:

Perhaps one of the Win98 Gurus will have an explanation.

Most of them are not speaking to me since I use 98SE LITE.
Satan's spawn!

Did you have FireFox when you only had 256MB?

No, I only installed it because some stupid eBay box wasn't
showing up in Opera (I still think Opera is better, I HATE the
FF cache system with no extensions - although it does save FLV's
just as nicely as Opera). But the same thing was happening when
I just used Opera.

I guess now that I have 1GB of RAM, an ADSL connection and a
2GHz CPU I have been forgetting about my favorite browser,
OffByOne, which has NO cache and takes up virtually no
resources. My bad.

OTOH, I have been forced to use Opera or FF because I have been
forced to access sites which use Java, Flash, etc. Time to put a
stop to that. I wish eBay worked in OB1.

SNIP

While working offline, turn your anti-virus off.

I ONLY ever do on-demand scans of the directory where I've dl'd
stuff which could be potentially harmful. NOTHING related to the
AV (ESET NOD32) is running otherwise. Not even the Kernel or
control center.

(Process
of elimination) Does your anti-virus automatically check
for updates? That could be using system resources also???
Just guessing.

No, I don't let my computer do ANYTHING automatically.

SNIP

If I hear of a program that tracks the use of system
resources, I will post back. (use and which program uses
them)

I Googled some more yesterday and found something interesting.
While there appears to be NO way of freeing up the stupid 64KB
of sys resources allocation, there is a registry entry which MAY
help, although it has to do with unloading DLL's - but it was
mentioned in a sys resources thread somewhere. I haven't gotten
around to putting it in yet. FYI, it's:

Use Regedit to edit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\exp
lorer
Add the DWORD value named: AlwaysUnloadDLL and set it to 1

It seems to be fairly useless for 2000 and up but some in the
thread said it's good in 9x.

But yesterday I did OK. It's really not a big deal, just a
little annoying, and it doesn't happen ALL the time.

Thanks again for your help.
t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

"Buffalo" wrote in
:

Perhaps one of the Win98 Gurus will have an explanation.

Most of them are not speaking to me since I use 98SE LITE.
Satan's spawn!

Did you have FireFox when you only had 256MB?

No, I only installed it because some stupid eBay box wasn't
showing up in Opera (I still think Opera is better, I HATE the
FF cache system with no extensions - although it does save FLV's
just as nicely as Opera). But the same thing was happening when
I just used Opera.

I guess now that I have 1GB of RAM, an ADSL connection and a
2GHz CPU I have been forgetting about my favorite browser,
OffByOne, which has NO cache and takes up virtually no
resources. My bad.

OTOH, I have been forced to use Opera or FF because I have been
forced to access sites which use Java, Flash, etc. Time to put a
stop to that. I wish eBay worked in OB1.

SNIP

While working offline, turn your anti-virus off.

I ONLY ever do on-demand scans of the directory where I've dl'd
stuff which could be potentially harmful. NOTHING related to the
AV (ESET NOD32) is running otherwise. Not even the Kernel or
control center.

(Process
of elimination) Does your anti-virus automatically check
for updates? That could be using system resources also???
Just guessing.

No, I don't let my computer do ANYTHING automatically.

SNIP

If I hear of a program that tracks the use of system
resources, I will post back. (use and which program uses
them)

I Googled some more yesterday and found something interesting.
While there appears to be NO way of freeing up the stupid 64KB
of sys resources allocation, there is a registry entry which MAY
help, although it has to do with unloading DLL's - but it was
mentioned in a sys resources thread somewhere. I haven't gotten
around to putting it in yet. FYI, it's:

Use Regedit to edit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\exp
lorer
Add the DWORD value named: AlwaysUnloadDLL and set it to 1

It seems to be fairly useless for 2000 and up but some in the
thread said it's good in 9x.

But yesterday I did OK. It's really not a big deal, just a
little annoying, and it doesn't happen ALL the time.

Thanks again for your help.
t.

Strange loss of system resources
 

On 07 Jan 2009 21:29:19 GMT, thanatoid put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I use Opera and I have started using FireFox 2.0.0.18 because
Opera crashes a lot with the stupid SWF plugin, although I still
prefer its features and I am very accustomed to it.

If I stay off the web, no problem with sys resources.

Does anyone have any idea WHY this has started happening and
what I can do to fix it?
Any help would be most appreciated, as usual.

t.

Opera 9.5x has had severe bugs involving system resources. I don't
know about Firefox, though.

http://groups.google.com/group/opera...a?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/opera...e?dmode=source

I'm still using Opera 9.27 without too many problems, although I have
disabled SWF.

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