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canna March 16th 06 12:49 PM

Clean ME
 
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to sell my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.


Noel Paton March 16th 06 12:55 PM

Clean ME
 
Is there a Recovery Disk or Recovery Partition? - look in your manuals to
see. (there has to be, by law, some means for the user to reinstall the
operating system)
What Make is the machine? model??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to sell
my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME
disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.




canna March 16th 06 01:39 PM

Clean ME
 
Hi Noel, All I know at this time is that it's a Time PC. I'm at work at the
moment but I will provide you with further info later. Probably around 5.30
pm(BST)

I didn't buy it brand new but there was plenty of disks and manuals provided
with it. I'll have a good look through them later.

Thanks,

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Is there a Recovery Disk or Recovery Partition? - look in your manuals to
see. (there has to be, by law, some means for the user to reinstall the
operating system)
What Make is the machine? model??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to sell
my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME
disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.





Noel Paton March 16th 06 01:54 PM

Clean ME
 
Ah! - all bets are off....on three counts
1) Time went bust last year - and you have no chance of getting a
replacement CD from their new management
2) Time were not noted for good practices, even when they weren't running
from creditors
3) You got the PC second-hand - and that means that the previous owner may
have (wrongly) retained the OS disks in the mistaken belief that he/she
could install them on another PC with impunity.

I'll probably be out when you post back - but either someone else will
respond, or I'll respond on my return.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Noel, All I know at this time is that it's a Time PC. I'm at work at
the
moment but I will provide you with further info later. Probably around
5.30
pm(BST)

I didn't buy it brand new but there was plenty of disks and manuals
provided
with it. I'll have a good look through them later.

Thanks,

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Is there a Recovery Disk or Recovery Partition? - look in your manuals to
see. (there has to be, by law, some means for the user to reinstall the
operating system)
What Make is the machine? model??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to
sell
my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME
disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME
has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.







canna March 16th 06 05:51 PM

Clean ME
 
Hi,

I have found a floppy disk in with some manuals. Could this be the recovery
disk?

There are 22 files on it, the first 6 a

ATTRIB.EXE
AUTOEXEC.BAT
CHKDSK.EXE
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
COUNTRY.SYS

Thanks,

Craig.




"Noel Paton" wrote:

Ah! - all bets are off....on three counts
1) Time went bust last year - and you have no chance of getting a
replacement CD from their new management
2) Time were not noted for good practices, even when they weren't running
from creditors
3) You got the PC second-hand - and that means that the previous owner may
have (wrongly) retained the OS disks in the mistaken belief that he/she
could install them on another PC with impunity.

I'll probably be out when you post back - but either someone else will
respond, or I'll respond on my return.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Noel, All I know at this time is that it's a Time PC. I'm at work at
the
moment but I will provide you with further info later. Probably around
5.30
pm(BST)

I didn't buy it brand new but there was plenty of disks and manuals
provided
with it. I'll have a good look through them later.

Thanks,

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Is there a Recovery Disk or Recovery Partition? - look in your manuals to
see. (there has to be, by law, some means for the user to reinstall the
operating system)
What Make is the machine? model??

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to
sell
my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME
disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME
has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.








Mike M March 16th 06 10:33 PM

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Craig,

No. That is a boot floppy. The recovery disk will be a CD, perhaps more
than one depending on how much junk Time included with the system. I seem
to recall though that Time charged customers extra for a recovery CD so
you may be SOL. Check that the system doesn't have a hidden partition
containing an image of the system as delivered, in such cases then a
floppy disk such as you have found may well be all that is required to
install that image but the five files you mention as being on the disk are
amongst those that would be on a plain vanilla boot floppy.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006]



canna wrote:

Hi,

I have found a floppy disk in with some manuals. Could this be the
recovery disk?

There are 22 files on it, the first 6 a

ATTRIB.EXE
AUTOEXEC.BAT
CHKDSK.EXE
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
COUNTRY.SYS

Thanks,



canna March 16th 06 10:53 PM

Clean ME
 
Thanks Mike, looking at the disk further, it is just a standard boot floppy.
It looks like I don't have a recovery disk.

How would I check the system for a hidden partition containing an image of
the system as delivered?

Cheers,

Craig.

"Mike M" wrote:

Craig,

No. That is a boot floppy. The recovery disk will be a CD, perhaps more
than one depending on how much junk Time included with the system. I seem
to recall though that Time charged customers extra for a recovery CD so
you may be SOL. Check that the system doesn't have a hidden partition
containing an image of the system as delivered, in such cases then a
floppy disk such as you have found may well be all that is required to
install that image but the five files you mention as being on the disk are
amongst those that would be on a plain vanilla boot floppy.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006]



canna wrote:

Hi,

I have found a floppy disk in with some manuals. Could this be the
recovery disk?

There are 22 files on it, the first 6 a

ATTRIB.EXE
AUTOEXEC.BAT
CHKDSK.EXE
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
COUNTRY.SYS

Thanks,




Delboy March 17th 06 01:02 AM

Clean ME
 
Hi canna

Time supplied at extra cost a (in my case) green CD titled "Your
Reload/Backup CDv6". This contains about 1.4Mb of files to access a Ghost
image of the original "out of the box" state in hidden, non readable
partition(s) on the HD.

I do not know if all Time computers had the Ghost image loaded as standard
on the HD and only had to put the recovery CD in the box or specially
formatted HDs with the Ghost partition as a special. Mike M (I think)
suggested a file to me that might detail hidden partitions, but when I tried
that file, it did not find any hidden partitions on my HD.

Only other thing I can suggest is; when you defrag, in the detail view, do
you see lots of sectors shown as white squares with a red corner (data that
will not be moved)? These MAY be the hidden Ghost partitions.

If you want more details of my machine, unmunge my email addy and contact me
direct.

--
Delboy

A common mistake that people made when trying to design something completely
foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to sell

my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME

disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.




Noel Paton March 17th 06 10:19 AM

Clean ME
 
Defrag will NOT show an 'image partition' - simply because Defrag only looks
at the active partition. The 'unmovable' clusters in defrag are usually the
swapfile

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Delboy" wrote in message
...
Hi canna

Time supplied at extra cost a (in my case) green CD titled "Your
Reload/Backup CDv6". This contains about 1.4Mb of files to access a Ghost
image of the original "out of the box" state in hidden, non readable
partition(s) on the HD.

I do not know if all Time computers had the Ghost image loaded as standard
on the HD and only had to put the recovery CD in the box or specially
formatted HDs with the Ghost partition as a special. Mike M (I think)
suggested a file to me that might detail hidden partitions, but when I
tried
that file, it did not find any hidden partitions on my HD.

Only other thing I can suggest is; when you defrag, in the detail view, do
you see lots of sectors shown as white squares with a red corner (data
that
will not be moved)? These MAY be the hidden Ghost partitions.

If you want more details of my machine, unmunge my email addy and contact
me
direct.

--
Delboy

A common mistake that people made when trying to design something
completely
foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi,

As I prepare to receive my new machine and move to XP, I'm going to sell

my
current PC running an OEM version of WinMe. It didn't come with a winME

disk
and I'm wondering is there a way to clean the PC and leave it as if ME
has
just been installed.

Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Craig.






Mike M March 17th 06 10:34 AM

Clean ME
 
canna wrote:

Thanks Mike, looking at the disk further, it is just a standard boot
floppy. It looks like I don't have a recovery disk.

How would I check the system for a hidden partition containing an
image of the system as delivered?


Craig,

Try the following,

Click Start | Run and enter FDISK in the box and click OK. Click Y when
asked if you want to enable large disk support. Now enter 4 to display
partition information. You should see your C: partition (Status A, Type
PRI DOS) plus any other partitions that you might have that are visible in
Win Me together with their enumerated drive letter. If there is a hidden
partition this should show up but without a drive letter and probably with
a different status and type.
--
Mike Maltby





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