View Thumbnails, kills Web style folder option.
 

I would have posted in Active Desktop, but that groups seems to be dead.

(Earlier, I had a problem when un/re-installing Office2000, I lost my
graphics associations. But per the KBs I fixed that.)

Here's the problem. It started after a power failure to my system.
When things came back up, I got the white desktop background, stating an
error had occurred and did I want to restore my actuve desktop. I selected
yes.

I then set the Active Desktop to "View as Web page."

Things seem to be fine: In mousing over documents, graphics, etc., I got on
the left, a preview, as expected. The folder and it's contents responded as
if they were web pages.

But, when I set up a folder for "thumbnail" view, then switched my "views"
from icon/detail, what have you, I got the "thumbnails," but the desktop
reverted back to Classic Windows. I lost my preview and all web functions
for the folder.

Now, I can have one or the other:

View as a Web page and cannot activate "thumbnails" as one of the view
choices;

or I can stay with Classic Windows and have thumbnails, but no web
attributes on the desktop--previews, etc.

It wasn't like that before the power-outage. I could have the folder option
set as a web page and the view set to thumbnail or whatever I wanted.

I ran the registry checks in the KB216840, to determine if Active Desktop is
installed. Not one of the registry entries on my system matched what is
supposed to be there. Every value is close, but different.

How do I fix this? to have Active desktop set my folders to act as web
pages and under "views" be able to set that to "thumbnails" without the
system reverting to Classic Windows?

It's only when I move the Views to Thumbnails does this happenn. All other
"views" work fine.

Observation: when I try to "Customize" the Folder Options through:
View|Folder|General|Custom, based on setting you choose| and then tick the
Active Desktop section to "use windows classic desktop," returninng to the
General page has the radio button in "Custom." (where it should be)

If I check instead, "Enable all web-based content on my desktop," returning
to the General Folder options shows the radio buton has reset to "Web
style," and I have lost all my customizations. (it should have stayed on
"custom...")

I suppose these are interelatted problems?

Any ideas for fixes?

Thanks,
Bob T

I believe you are mistaken. If you set a folder to Thumbnail view, it cannot be set
to Web Page view. The Preview Pane on the left in Web view is not present when you
set a folder to Thumbnail view....they are mutually exclusive. It has always been
that way.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"sunslight" wrote in message
...
I would have posted in Active Desktop, but that groups seems to be dead.

(Earlier, I had a problem when un/re-installing Office2000, I lost my
graphics associations. But per the KBs I fixed that.)

Here's the problem. It started after a power failure to my system.
When things came back up, I got the white desktop background, stating an
error had occurred and did I want to restore my actuve desktop. I selected
yes.

I then set the Active Desktop to "View as Web page."

Things seem to be fine: In mousing over documents, graphics, etc., I got on
the left, a preview, as expected. The folder and it's contents responded as
if they were web pages.

But, when I set up a folder for "thumbnail" view, then switched my "views"
from icon/detail, what have you, I got the "thumbnails," but the desktop
reverted back to Classic Windows. I lost my preview and all web functions
for the folder.

Now, I can have one or the other:

View as a Web page and cannot activate "thumbnails" as one of the view
choices;

or I can stay with Classic Windows and have thumbnails, but no web
attributes on the desktop--previews, etc.

It wasn't like that before the power-outage. I could have the folder option
set as a web page and the view set to thumbnail or whatever I wanted.

I ran the registry checks in the KB216840, to determine if Active Desktop is
installed. Not one of the registry entries on my system matched what is
supposed to be there. Every value is close, but different.

How do I fix this? to have Active desktop set my folders to act as web
pages and under "views" be able to set that to "thumbnails" without the
system reverting to Classic Windows?

It's only when I move the Views to Thumbnails does this happenn. All other
"views" work fine.

Observation: when I try to "Customize" the Folder Options through:
View|Folder|General|Custom, based on setting you choose| and then tick the
Active Desktop section to "use windows classic desktop," returninng to the
General page has the radio button in "Custom." (where it should be)

If I check instead, "Enable all web-based content on my desktop," returning
to the General Folder options shows the radio buton has reset to "Web
style," and I have lost all my customizations. (it should have stayed on
"custom...")

I suppose these are interelatted problems?

Any ideas for fixes?

Thanks,
Bob T

That is the way that I understand it as well, Glen. Thank you for pointing
that out to all of us.

"glee" wrote:

I believe you are mistaken. If you set a folder to Thumbnail view, it cannot be set
to Web Page view. The Preview Pane on the left in Web view is not present when you
set a folder to Thumbnail view....they are mutually exclusive. It has always been
that way.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"sunslight" wrote in message
...
I would have posted in Active Desktop, but that groups seems to be dead.

(Earlier, I had a problem when un/re-installing Office2000, I lost my
graphics associations. But per the KBs I fixed that.)

Here's the problem. It started after a power failure to my system.
When things came back up, I got the white desktop background, stating an
error had occurred and did I want to restore my actuve desktop. I selected
yes.

I then set the Active Desktop to "View as Web page."

Things seem to be fine: In mousing over documents, graphics, etc., I got on
the left, a preview, as expected. The folder and it's contents responded as
if they were web pages.

But, when I set up a folder for "thumbnail" view, then switched my "views"
from icon/detail, what have you, I got the "thumbnails," but the desktop
reverted back to Classic Windows. I lost my preview and all web functions
for the folder.

Now, I can have one or the other:

View as a Web page and cannot activate "thumbnails" as one of the view
choices;

or I can stay with Classic Windows and have thumbnails, but no web
attributes on the desktop--previews, etc.

It wasn't like that before the power-outage. I could have the folder option
set as a web page and the view set to thumbnail or whatever I wanted.

I ran the registry checks in the KB216840, to determine if Active Desktop is
installed. Not one of the registry entries on my system matched what is
supposed to be there. Every value is close, but different.

How do I fix this? to have Active desktop set my folders to act as web
pages and under "views" be able to set that to "thumbnails" without the
system reverting to Classic Windows?

It's only when I move the Views to Thumbnails does this happenn. All other
"views" work fine.

Observation: when I try to "Customize" the Folder Options through:
View|Folder|General|Custom, based on setting you choose| and then tick the
Active Desktop section to "use windows classic desktop," returninng to the
General page has the radio button in "Custom." (where it should be)

If I check instead, "Enable all web-based content on my desktop," returning
to the General Folder options shows the radio buton has reset to "Web
style," and I have lost all my customizations. (it should have stayed on
"custom...")

I suppose these are interelatted problems?

Any ideas for fixes?

Thanks,
Bob T

Thank you.

I guess I was luciky that it was messed up and working like it had been.
I had never seen it revert to the Windows Classic on the Thumbnail view.
I'll accept that anamoly as an MS "added feature" I had for a while.

I am bothered a bit though that ever reg entry key value that the KB article
had me check, that showed Active desktop was working correctly or even on the
system was not as the KB said they should be.

Even one entire Key is missing.

Maybe I'll make a backup, then add/change the values to what the KB says
they are supposed to be. --My system now crashes when I try to shut it down
or will freeze at random.

I just found that out.
--It took several tries to get the white warning screen that the Active
Desktop was lost, after the power failure, before it would switch to back to
normal. Maybe things are still scrambled?

Thank you for the help.
Bob

"Dan" wrote:

That is the way that I understand it as well, Glen. Thank you for pointing
that out to all of us.

"glee" wrote:

I believe you are mistaken. If you set a folder to Thumbnail view, it cannot be set
to Web Page view. The Preview Pane on the left in Web view is not present when you
set a folder to Thumbnail view....they are mutually exclusive. It has always been
that way.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"sunslight" wrote in message
...
I would have posted in Active Desktop, but that groups seems to be dead.

(Earlier, I had a problem when un/re-installing Office2000, I lost my
graphics associations. But per the KBs I fixed that.)

Here's the problem. It started after a power failure to my system.
When things came back up, I got the white desktop background, stating an
error had occurred and did I want to restore my actuve desktop. I selected
yes.

I then set the Active Desktop to "View as Web page."

Things seem to be fine: In mousing over documents, graphics, etc., I got on
the left, a preview, as expected. The folder and it's contents responded as
if they were web pages.

But, when I set up a folder for "thumbnail" view, then switched my "views"
from icon/detail, what have you, I got the "thumbnails," but the desktop
reverted back to Classic Windows. I lost my preview and all web functions
for the folder.

Now, I can have one or the other:

View as a Web page and cannot activate "thumbnails" as one of the view
choices;

or I can stay with Classic Windows and have thumbnails, but no web
attributes on the desktop--previews, etc.

It wasn't like that before the power-outage. I could have the folder option
set as a web page and the view set to thumbnail or whatever I wanted.

I ran the registry checks in the KB216840, to determine if Active Desktop is
installed. Not one of the registry entries on my system matched what is
supposed to be there. Every value is close, but different.

How do I fix this? to have Active desktop set my folders to act as web
pages and under "views" be able to set that to "thumbnails" without the
system reverting to Classic Windows?

It's only when I move the Views to Thumbnails does this happenn. All other
"views" work fine.

Observation: when I try to "Customize" the Folder Options through:
View|Folder|General|Custom, based on setting you choose| and then tick the
Active Desktop section to "use windows classic desktop," returninng to the
General page has the radio button in "Custom." (where it should be)

If I check instead, "Enable all web-based content on my desktop," returning
to the General Folder options shows the radio buton has reset to "Web
style," and I have lost all my customizations. (it should have stayed on
"custom...")

I suppose these are interelatted problems?

Any ideas for fixes?

Thanks,
Bob T

The KB article you refer to --
How to Determine if Active Desktop Is Installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=216840
first of all states that it applies to IE5.0, IE4.x, (which includes Win95 & NT4
with one of those browsers installed) and Win98 First Edition. Are you using Win98
First Edition, or Win98SE?

I assume you are referring to the ShellState key as being different on your system,
as it is here on my Win98SE system. The value shown in the KB article is the
default value, and it can be different on various systems based on other changes
made. You can change it to the default setting for AD as shown in the KB
article....no reboot should be needed afterwards. The usual caveats about backing
up the registry apply(StartRunscanregw).

Are there any other keys shown there that you find different?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"sunslight" wrote in message
...
Thank you.

I guess I was luciky that it was messed up and working like it had been.
I had never seen it revert to the Windows Classic on the Thumbnail view.
I'll accept that anamoly as an MS "added feature" I had for a while.

I am bothered a bit though that ever reg entry key value that the KB article
had me check, that showed Active desktop was working correctly or even on the
system was not as the KB said they should be.

Even one entire Key is missing.

Maybe I'll make a backup, then add/change the values to what the KB says
they are supposed to be. --My system now crashes when I try to shut it down
or will freeze at random.

I just found that out.
--It took several tries to get the white warning screen that the Active
Desktop was lost, after the power failure, before it would switch to back to
normal. Maybe things are still scrambled?

Thank you for the help.
Bob

"Dan" wrote:

That is the way that I understand it as well, Glen. Thank you for pointing
that out to all of us.

"glee" wrote:

I believe you are mistaken. If you set a folder to Thumbnail view, it cannot
be set
to Web Page view. The Preview Pane on the left in Web view is not present
when you
set a folder to Thumbnail view....they are mutually exclusive. It has always
been
that way.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"sunslight" wrote in message
...
I would have posted in Active Desktop, but that groups seems to be dead.

(Earlier, I had a problem when un/re-installing Office2000, I lost my
graphics associations. But per the KBs I fixed that.)

Here's the problem. It started after a power failure to my system.
When things came back up, I got the white desktop background, stating an
error had occurred and did I want to restore my actuve desktop. I selected
yes.

I then set the Active Desktop to "View as Web page."

Things seem to be fine: In mousing over documents, graphics, etc., I got on
the left, a preview, as expected. The folder and it's contents responded as
if they were web pages.

But, when I set up a folder for "thumbnail" view, then switched my "views"
from icon/detail, what have you, I got the "thumbnails," but the desktop
reverted back to Classic Windows. I lost my preview and all web functions
for the folder.

Now, I can have one or the other:

View as a Web page and cannot activate "thumbnails" as one of the view
choices;

or I can stay with Classic Windows and have thumbnails, but no web
attributes on the desktop--previews, etc.

It wasn't like that before the power-outage. I could have the folder option
set as a web page and the view set to thumbnail or whatever I wanted.

I ran the registry checks in the KB216840, to determine if Active Desktop is
installed. Not one of the registry entries on my system matched what is
supposed to be there. Every value is close, but different.

How do I fix this? to have Active desktop set my folders to act as web
pages and under "views" be able to set that to "thumbnails" without the
system reverting to Classic Windows?

It's only when I move the Views to Thumbnails does this happenn. All other
"views" work fine.

Observation: when I try to "Customize" the Folder Options through:
View|Folder|General|Custom, based on setting you choose| and then tick the
Active Desktop section to "use windows classic desktop," returninng to the
General page has the radio button in "Custom." (where it should be)

If I check instead, "Enable all web-based content on my desktop," returning
to the General Folder options shows the radio buton has reset to "Web
style," and I have lost all my customizations. (it should have stayed on
"custom...")

I suppose these are interelatted problems?

Any ideas for fixes?

Thanks,
Bob T