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[email protected] May 15th 11 05:35 PM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
Hi,

I use FireFox V2.0.0.17 on my Win98se computers. I have Java Script
enabled, but "Java" unchecked. I did not change, via "Advance", the
default "Java Script Settings". "Move or resize exiting Window" and
"Disable or replace content..." are enabled (default).

NUISANCE:

When I visit sites, often a pop up, "Stop Script" window appears. I have
to click on the button in order to continue a web page download.

The "Help" documents does not provide any information on how
I can automatically "stop script".

Do you know of a way I can automatically, "Stop Script", or must
I enable (if that will work?) all the Java Script settings to avoid this
problem?

Thank You in Advance, John

PS, Remove "ine" from my email address


98 Guy May 16th 11 01:15 AM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
wrote:

I use FireFox V2.0.0.17 on my Win98se computers.


Is there any particular reason why you don't have 2.0.0.20?

I have Java Script enabled, but "Java" unchecked.


I have both enabled.

I did not change, via "Advance", the default "Java Script
Settings". "Move or resize exiting Window" and
"Disable or replace content..." are enabled (default).


Same.

NUISANCE:

When I visit sites, often a pop up, "Stop Script" window appears.


You mean that a messages that a "script has stopped responding" message
appears, and you can "wait" or "stop" the script.

Do you know of a way I can automatically, "Stop Script", or
must I enable (if that will work?) all the Java Script
settings to avoid this problem?


Open Firefox and type "about:config" in the address bar (then hit
return).

In the "Filter" entry box, enter dom.max_script_run_time.

The default value should be 10 (seconds). You can make it shorter (so
the script time-out message happens faster). That won't fix these
scripts from timing out - it means you'll waste less time waiting to
dismiss the time-out message box.

There are two add-ons that can be a more effective remedy for Javascript
issues. One is called "YesScript", and the other is "NoScript".

The default behavior of Noscript is that it prevents javascript from
running for ALL websites you visit, unless you specifically add the site
to a "white-list".

Yes-script is the complete opposite. It's default behavior is to allow
javascript on all websites unless you add specific sites to a
"black-list".

Anyone running Firefox 2.x won't be able to run the most recent version
of YesScript:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...ript/versions/

It looks like you'll need version 1.8:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...t/versions/1.8

I don't run either one, but I did try NoScript a few years ago and found
it to be too much of a pain. People normally use NoScript as a browser
"security" feature - not to enhance the browser's functionality or
usability (indeed - it decreases both).

If you find that you go to certain sites with some frequency and it's
those sites that give you script problems, then you might want to try
YesScript on them.

I also suggest you upgrade to Firefox 2.0.0.20:

http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.php?o...fox=7?download

Firefox 2.0.0.20 was released about 3 months after your version
(2.0.0.17) and contains a handful of additional security patches.

I find Firefox 2.0.0.20 to be a perfectly functional browser for 99.9%
of the web-surfing I do. For a few web sites that don't function
properly on that version, I have Opera version 11.01.

thanatoid May 16th 11 03:18 AM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
wrote in
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snip

I'll continue to watch this thread. Maybe someone will
know a way to automatically "Stop Script". That sure would
be nice.


I don't want to be an annoying pest, but like I said in my other
post, nPop and Xnews do it faster and better, and no "stop
script" crap etc. And there are quite a few other options as
well.

I considered TBird, but when I saw its size and contents,
decided against it.

thanatoid May 16th 11 03:20 AM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
98 Guy wrote in :

snip

The default behavior of Noscript is that it prevents
javascript from running for ALL websites you visit, unless
you specifically add the site to a "white-list".

Yes-script is the complete opposite. It's default behavior
is to allow javascript on all websites unless you add
specific sites to a "black-list".


I placed 4 options on my Opera toolbar: images blocker, flash
blocker, javascript on/off, and "show as IE/FF/Opera".

Seems simpler, doesn't it?

Sanity Clause May 16th 11 08:33 AM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 

wrote

Tbird is the only email software that can do pop-mail from Gmail
(unless something has come out since I set this up about 3 years ago).


Still using Outlook Express 5.50 here. Seems to work just fine with Gmail.





Lostgallifreyan May 16th 11 12:53 PM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
thanatoid wrote in
:

I don't want to be an annoying pest, but like I said in my other
post, nPop and Xnews do it faster and better, and no "stop
script" crap etc. And there are quite a few other options as
well.


I use nPOP too. I think email is far too important to be held to ransom by
the dubious performance of large systems. Imagine having a phone attached to
a TV, where the TV suppressed phone use while adverts were showing, or when
the news was on. Doing emails with a browser is like that. If you look at
what it actually IS, you'll see that SMTP and POP3 (for sending and receiving
respectively) are protocols with about as much to do with the WWW as a
telephone landline has to do with mass broadcasting. The fact that access
appears at the same location for the end user these days is encouraging
illusions that should be abandoned to allow better control of things you
need. Keep them as separate as you can manage, so each system works as you
need. Ideally email should work well enough to be used as a means to make
emergency calls if the phone goes down.

There's an nPOPuk variant that does a bit more. I prefer the original but the
variant does email forwarding and a few other things extra.

Putting programs on their own partition is something I do too. Those that
allow it are usually more selfcontained, will usually run on W98 or WXP (so
long as they will run on W98 at all), and they also tend to limit their
dependencies so that they are more indepedent of each other, and far less
likely to break (or break each other).

Lostgallifreyan May 16th 11 12:55 PM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
wrote in :

I never heard of nPop. I thought Xnews was a newsreader, or does it
do email too?


I think it can call nPOP when you ask Xnews to reply by mail. I don't link
them though so I never figured out how. I think it's an association in the
registry, for the mail address protocol, mailto:...

Lostgallifreyan May 16th 11 12:57 PM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
wrote in :

Tbird is the
only email software that can do pop-mail from Gmail (unless something
has come out since I set this up about 3 years ago).


nPOP can do it. I had a Gmail account for a couple of years, but not now. I
even used it on Hotmail originally, using a thing called Hotmail Popper that
allowed direct POP3 access.

thanatoid May 17th 11 02:20 AM

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wrote in
:

snip

I never heard of nPop.


Most people have never heard of the Maybach, either.

I thought Xnews was a newsreader, or does it do email too?


Usenet only. One BEST program for each application/protocol.

Here's my situation. I use gmail for all my email.


nPop allows you to use your gmail account(s) via POP/SMTP
protocol. It is CONSIDERABLY faster than navigating through
their ridiculous web pages.

I dont even have a "real" email address.


You probably do, from your ISP, but it may well be just a
SPAM dumping ground, like mine, I have NEVER used it, my ISP
are assholes.

Anyway, having a usable "real address" is up to you, but you
can get one for about $10-20 a year from one of several
providers most people don't know exist (again). And use POP/SMTP
instead of the dreaded htm mail.

Using Tbird, I am able
to read all of my gmail accounts on my own harddrive (Pop
mail).


See above.

If I had to go thru that whole ordeal to log on to
the gmail website everytime I want to read my email, I'd
stop using email. I hate webmail.


So do I. See above.

Tbird is the only email
software that can do pop-mail from Gmail (unless something
has come out since I set this up about 3 years ago).


Yes, something has, see above. And it's been more than 3
years, I believe.

My installed Tbird is 25 megs. Thats not really big.


Oh really? My installed nPop is 1.5 KB [sic], not counting
the several (you can have as many as you want, even with ONE
POP/STMP provider) mailboxes, which at this point amount to
about 200 KB.

But I'm using an older version. I actually upgraded and as
usual, it was too bloated for my tastes. I went back to
what I had.


Try nPop.

thanatoid May 17th 11 02:24 AM

FireFox and "Stop Script" Nuisance
 
Lostgallifreyan wrote in
:

thanatoid wrote in
:

I don't want to be an annoying pest, but like I said in my
other post, nPop and Xnews do it faster and better, and no
"stop script" crap etc. And there are quite a few other
options as well.


I use nPOP too. I think email is far too important to be
held to ransom by the dubious performance of large systems.
Imagine having a phone attached to a TV, where the TV
suppressed phone use while adverts were showing, or when
the news was on. Doing emails with a browser is like that.
If you look at what it actually IS, you'll see that SMTP
and POP3 (for sending and receiving respectively) are
protocols with about as much to do with the WWW as a
telephone landline has to do with mass broadcasting. The
fact that access appears at the same location for the end
user these days is encouraging illusions that should be
abandoned to allow better control of things you need. Keep
them as separate as you can manage, so each system works as
you need. Ideally email should work well enough to be used
as a means to make emergency calls if the phone goes down.


I could NOT have said it as well. Can I save this bit to quote
when the subject comes up in some discussion with the clueless
(with full credit given)?

There's an nPOPuk variant that does a bit more. I prefer
the original but the variant does email forwarding and a
few other things extra.


Yes, various multiple folder options etc. I also prefer the
original, and manage the email content manually before archiving
it.


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