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Jeff Turner October 16th 04 03:39 AM

Doing the right thing?
 
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $ 19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?

Your help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio






PA Bear October 16th 04 03:51 AM

If you like NAV (I don't), upgrade/subscribe to NAV 2005. NAV 2001 is
simply too old (and your next subscription will prolly be about $5 less than
getting NAV 2005).

If you don't or wanna save money and at the same time run a reliable AV app
that doesn't clog up your system as NAV can [IMHO], uninstall NAV and
install free version of AVG or any of the others freecheap ones out there.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

WinXP SP2: What's New for Internet Explorer and Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...eoverview.mspx

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

There is no 'silver bullet' solution to hijackware
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=33131

Jeff Turner wrote:
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $
19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?

Your help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio



David H. Lipman October 16th 04 05:13 AM

No.

Your version of NAV, 2001, is out-of-date

As for Adaware, download the latest version called Adaware SE.

Just to make sure, perform the following....

1) Download the following three items...

Trend Sysclean Package
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp

Latest Trend signature files.
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp

Adaware SE (personal free version)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

Create a directory.
On drive "C:\"
(e.g., "c:\New Folder")
or the desktop
(e.g., "C:\Documents and Settings\lipman\Desktop\New Folder")

Download sysclean.com and place it in that directory.
Dowload the signature files (pattern files) by obtaining the ZIP file.
For example; lpt202.zip

Extract the contents of the ZIP file and place the contents in the same directory as
sysclean.com.

2) Update Adware with the latest definitions.
3) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode
4) Using both the Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware, perform a Full Scan of your
platform and clean/delete any infectors/parasites found.
5) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform using both the
Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware
6) Please report back your results

Dave




"Jeff Turner" wrote in message
...
| Dear Help group,
|
| My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM
|
| I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
| Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.
|
| My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
| annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $ 19.00.
|
| Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
| purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?
|
| Your help will be appreciated.
|
| Thanks.
|
| Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|



Jeff Turner October 16th 04 06:04 PM

PA Bear,

Thanks.

Jeff Turner


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
If you like NAV (I don't), upgrade/subscribe to NAV 2005. NAV 2001 is
simply too old (and your next subscription will prolly be about $5 less

than
getting NAV 2005).

If you don't or wanna save money and at the same time run a reliable AV

app
that doesn't clog up your system as NAV can [IMHO], uninstall NAV and
install free version of AVG or any of the others freecheap ones out

there.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

WinXP SP2: What's New for Internet Explorer and Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...eoverview.mspx

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

There is no 'silver bullet' solution to hijackware
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=33131

Jeff Turner wrote:
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $
19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?

Your help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio





Jeff Turner October 16th 04 06:07 PM

David,

Thanks.

Jeff Turner


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
No.

Your version of NAV, 2001, is out-of-date

As for Adaware, download the latest version called Adaware SE.

Just to make sure, perform the following....

1) Download the following three items...

Trend Sysclean Package
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp

Latest Trend signature files.
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp

Adaware SE (personal free version)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

Create a directory.
On drive "C:\"
(e.g., "c:\New Folder")
or the desktop
(e.g., "C:\Documents and Settings\lipman\Desktop\New Folder")

Download sysclean.com and place it in that directory.
Dowload the signature files (pattern files) by obtaining the ZIP file.
For example; lpt202.zip

Extract the contents of the ZIP file and place the contents in the same

directory as
sysclean.com.

2) Update Adware with the latest definitions.
3) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode
4) Using both the Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware, perform a Full

Scan of your
platform and clean/delete any infectors/parasites found.
5) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform

using both the
Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware
6) Please report back your results

Dave




"Jeff Turner" wrote in message
...
| Dear Help group,
|
| My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM
|
| I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
| Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.
|
| My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
| annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $

19.00.
|
| Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
| purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?
|
| Your help will be appreciated.
|
| Thanks.
|
| Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|





Nigel Stapley October 16th 04 06:32 PM

Jeff Turner wrote:
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $ 19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC?


Yes. I can't see much more you *can* do - as long as you keep all the
programs up to date, of course.

Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?


I'm biased on the subject of Norton anyway, after a multitude of bad
experiences in the last year or so.

As PA Bear says, you could try AVG from Grisoft or, better still (IMO),
Avast! (www.avast.com). Both free, regular updates.

HTH

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

reply-to will bounce

Jeff Turner October 17th 04 03:55 AM

PA Bear,

Does AV update the virus definitions like NAV does?

Thanks.

Jeff Turner


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
If you like NAV (I don't), upgrade/subscribe to NAV 2005. NAV 2001 is
simply too old (and your next subscription will prolly be about $5 less

than
getting NAV 2005).

If you don't or wanna save money and at the same time run a reliable AV

app
that doesn't clog up your system as NAV can [IMHO], uninstall NAV and
install free version of AVG or any of the others freecheap ones out

there.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

WinXP SP2: What's New for Internet Explorer and Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...eoverview.mspx

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

There is no 'silver bullet' solution to hijackware
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=33131

Jeff Turner wrote:
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $
19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?

Your help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio





Jeff Turner October 17th 04 04:09 AM

Dave,

WOW, that is a lot, I hope I can do all of that.

Jeff Turner


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
No.

Your version of NAV, 2001, is out-of-date

As for Adaware, download the latest version called Adaware SE.

Just to make sure, perform the following....

1) Download the following three items...

Trend Sysclean Package
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp

Latest Trend signature files.
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp

Adaware SE (personal free version)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

Create a directory.
On drive "C:\"
(e.g., "c:\New Folder")
or the desktop
(e.g., "C:\Documents and Settings\lipman\Desktop\New Folder")

Download sysclean.com and place it in that directory.
Dowload the signature files (pattern files) by obtaining the ZIP file.
For example; lpt202.zip

Extract the contents of the ZIP file and place the contents in the same

directory as
sysclean.com.

2) Update Adware with the latest definitions.
3) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode
4) Using both the Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware, perform a Full

Scan of your
platform and clean/delete any infectors/parasites found.
5) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform

using both the
Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware
6) Please report back your results

Dave




"Jeff Turner" wrote in message
...
| Dear Help group,
|
| My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM
|
| I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
| Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.
|
| My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
| annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $

19.00.
|
| Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
| purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?
|
| Your help will be appreciated.
|
| Thanks.
|
| Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio
|
|
|
|
|





Jeff Turner October 17th 04 04:12 AM

Nigel,

Thanks. I think NAV is just about history.

Jeff Turner


"Nigel Stapley" wrote in message
...
Jeff Turner wrote:
Dear Help group,

My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM

I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.

My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $

19.00.

Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC?


Yes. I can't see much more you *can* do - as long as you keep all the
programs up to date, of course.

Should I continue to
purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?


I'm biased on the subject of Norton anyway, after a multitude of bad
experiences in the last year or so.

As PA Bear says, you could try AVG from Grisoft or, better still (IMO),
Avast! (www.avast.com). Both free, regular updates.

HTH

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

reply-to will bounce




David H. Lipman October 17th 04 04:16 AM

It really isn't that bad. :-)

BTW: The best place to ask computer security (COMSEC) questions are security related News
Groups.

microsoft.public.security
alt.computer.security


The following News Groups are specific to viruses and parasites (malware).

microsoft.public.scripting.virus.discussion
microsoft.public.security.virus
alt.comp.virus
alt.comp.anti-virus

Dave



"Jeff Turner" wrote in message
...
| Dave,
|
| WOW, that is a lot, I hope I can do all of that.
|
| Jeff Turner
|
|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote in message
| ...
| No.
|
| Your version of NAV, 2001, is out-of-date
|
| As for Adaware, download the latest version called Adaware SE.
|
| Just to make sure, perform the following....
|
| 1) Download the following three items...
|
| Trend Sysclean Package
| http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp
|
| Latest Trend signature files.
| http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp
|
| Adaware SE (personal free version)
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
|
| Create a directory.
| On drive "C:\"
| (e.g., "c:\New Folder")
| or the desktop
| (e.g., "C:\Documents and Settings\lipman\Desktop\New Folder")
|
| Download sysclean.com and place it in that directory.
| Dowload the signature files (pattern files) by obtaining the ZIP file.
| For example; lpt202.zip
|
| Extract the contents of the ZIP file and place the contents in the same
| directory as
| sysclean.com.
|
| 2) Update Adware with the latest definitions.
| 3) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode
| 4) Using both the Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware, perform a Full
| Scan of your
| platform and clean/delete any infectors/parasites found.
| 5) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform
| using both the
| Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware
| 6) Please report back your results
|
| Dave
|
|
|
|
| "Jeff Turner" wrote in message
| ...
| | Dear Help group,
| |
| | My Computer is Windows 98 SE, AMD, Athlon XP 1800+, 384 MB RAM
| |
| | I protect it with Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (always updated with new def.),
| | Zone Alarm firewall, Spybot S&D, Adaware.
| |
| | My question is about the Norton Anti Virus. When I purchased the first
| | annual def. update it was about $ 9.00. the next year it was about $
| 19.00.
| |
| | Am I doing the correct things to protect my PC? Should I continue to
| | purchase the Norton AV updates or switch to another software protection?
| |
| | Your help will be appreciated.
| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| | Jeff Turner Gates Mills, Ohio
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




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