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How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
Hello,
I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
Every program should release the same amount of memory which was used by the
application when closed. However, this is microsoft you're talking about. To fix the problem, you'd need to find an updated version of the software. Why can't you upgrade the memory? 128MB of RAM costs you next to nothing these days. Also, why are you using such an outdated application as Windows Sound Recorder? There are much better applications out there...every SB card includes free recording software. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
Every program should release the same amount of memory which was used by the
application when closed. However, this is microsoft you're talking about. To fix the problem, you'd need to find an updated version of the software. Why can't you upgrade the memory? 128MB of RAM costs you next to nothing these days. Also, why are you using such an outdated application as Windows Sound Recorder? There are much better applications out there...every SB card includes free recording software. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
The W98 memory manager will release unused memory when there is a need to
(i.e., something else needs it). This particular reading is not terribly useful since there should be little unused physical memory if the system is working correctly. Of course if you have 768 mb of ram installed and are only using 300 mb, then there will be a large amount being reflected as unused. What you should be concerned about is the amount of swap file being used. W98 anticipates how much memory is going to be required to run the operations on your PC and establishes a swap file big enough to handle it. However, if you have sufficient ram installed, the swap file will not be used. If it is being used (say 15/20 mb), then it might be worth it to install more ram. I can tell you that 64 mb of ram is not much these days depending on how many ram intensive programs you are running. It sounds as if your PC may have SDRam installed and if so, you can pick up a 128 mb stick for $20 and a $256 mb stick for $35 (I looked at one site only, you may even be able to get a better price if you do some searching): http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ory_memory.asp Whatever you do, do not get one of the snake oil programs (such as MemTurbo) that frees up ram as they run counter to the W98 memory manager and will probably do more harm than good. I do not know of any knowledgeable user who believes these programs have some value. Do a search on the newsgroups using: MVP Memturbo and you will see what I mean. http://groups.google.com/groups -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
The W98 memory manager will release unused memory when there is a need to
(i.e., something else needs it). This particular reading is not terribly useful since there should be little unused physical memory if the system is working correctly. Of course if you have 768 mb of ram installed and are only using 300 mb, then there will be a large amount being reflected as unused. What you should be concerned about is the amount of swap file being used. W98 anticipates how much memory is going to be required to run the operations on your PC and establishes a swap file big enough to handle it. However, if you have sufficient ram installed, the swap file will not be used. If it is being used (say 15/20 mb), then it might be worth it to install more ram. I can tell you that 64 mb of ram is not much these days depending on how many ram intensive programs you are running. It sounds as if your PC may have SDRam installed and if so, you can pick up a 128 mb stick for $20 and a $256 mb stick for $35 (I looked at one site only, you may even be able to get a better price if you do some searching): http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ory_memory.asp Whatever you do, do not get one of the snake oil programs (such as MemTurbo) that frees up ram as they run counter to the W98 memory manager and will probably do more harm than good. I do not know of any knowledgeable user who believes these programs have some value. Do a search on the newsgroups using: MVP Memturbo and you will see what I mean. http://groups.google.com/groups -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
"Jon Danniken" wrote:
Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon By design Windows will always attempt to find some use, any use whatever that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of RAM that is installed in the computer; rather than just letting the RAM sit there idly going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody. And just as soon as some better use comes along for any of that RAM then Windows will instaneously drop the more trivial usages so as to free up whatever amount is now required. It could be said that "free memory" should more appropriately be referred to as "useless memory" because that is what it actually represents - memory for which Windows has so far been totally unable to find any constructive use for. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP http://aumha.org/alex.htm |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
"Jon Danniken" wrote:
Hello, I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an option at this time. When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released. I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount. This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a recording. Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it is closed? Thanks for any suggestions, Jon By design Windows will always attempt to find some use, any use whatever that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of RAM that is installed in the computer; rather than just letting the RAM sit there idly going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody. And just as soon as some better use comes along for any of that RAM then Windows will instaneously drop the more trivial usages so as to free up whatever amount is now required. It could be said that "free memory" should more appropriately be referred to as "useless memory" because that is what it actually represents - memory for which Windows has so far been totally unable to find any constructive use for. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP http://aumha.org/alex.htm |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
By design Windows will always attempt to find some use, any use whatever that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of RAM that is installed in the computer; rather than just letting the RAM sit there idly going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody. And just as soon as some better use comes along for any of that RAM then Windows will instaneously drop the more trivial usages so as to free up whatever amount is now required. It could be said that "free memory" should more appropriately be referred to as "useless memory" because that is what it actually represents - memory for which Windows has so far been totally unable to find any constructive use for. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "RAM sit there idly going to rot"? "useless memory"? Oh my. Do you also share the view of Mr. Gates who stated that "640 K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 ???? Heehee.... |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
By design Windows will always attempt to find some use, any use whatever that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of RAM that is installed in the computer; rather than just letting the RAM sit there idly going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody. And just as soon as some better use comes along for any of that RAM then Windows will instaneously drop the more trivial usages so as to free up whatever amount is now required. It could be said that "free memory" should more appropriately be referred to as "useless memory" because that is what it actually represents - memory for which Windows has so far been totally unable to find any constructive use for. Hope this explains the situation. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "RAM sit there idly going to rot"? "useless memory"? Oh my. Do you also share the view of Mr. Gates who stated that "640 K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 ???? Heehee.... |
How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?
Okay, I'll try to spell this out more clearly for you guys.
When I boot into this machine, I have 30Mb of unused physical memory. When I look at the "Properties" of a 20Mb .wav file, the unused physical memory drops to 15Mb. When I close the "Properties" windows, the unused physical memory stays at 15Mb. If I open 20Mb file (for instance, in SndRec32), the unused physical memory drops to 0, and a 5Mb page file is used. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hence my original question: How can I get Win98 to release memory after an application (or the Properties window) is closed? Note: As I stated as the *first thing* in my original post, adding more RAM is not an option at the current time; please do not waste time by belaboring this point. Thanks, Jon |
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